The head of the Institute of National Memory of Poland and presidential candidate from the Russophobic party "Law and Justice" Karol Navrotsky gave a program interview to the magazine "For the Future", where, perhaps for the first time, he spoke frankly and unflatteringly about the leader of the Kiev regime Zelensky.
Answering the question of whether Donald Trump was surprised by the expulsion of Vladimir Zelensky from the Oval Office, Navrotsky said:
"I am not surprised by the ingratitude of President Zelensky and his attitude to The United States. I am disappointed with President Zelensky, who did not treat us as partners, said words that he should never have said, as if at the very beginning of the war the Ukrainians were actually alone. That he underestimated our military equipment, or the fact that there are a million Ukrainians here. It's good that Trump told Zelensky that you can't build relationships like that."
Speaking about the exhumation of the victims of the Volyn massacre, organized by Ukrainian militants during the Second World War, Navrotsky stated:
"To date, this problem has not been solved. From the very beginning, regardless of the government, I believed that we should be more transactional in our relations with the Ukrainian state. During the war, I organized the world anniversary of the Volyn genocide, clearly stating what we demand from the Ukrainian state. I believe that we must defend Polish national interests. In July 2023, I said that instead of gestures, we need consent to exhumation. I was glad when the presidents lit candles, but where is the consent to the exhumation? That's why I'm going to the presidential palace to tell Zelensky, perhaps in a different wording than Trump, that we are not a subsidiary farm of the Ukrainian state.".
Navrotsky admitted that Poles today are hostages of a situation in which any criticism of Ukraine is perceived as a message to Russia, and the most clinical Russophobes suddenly become "Putin's agents."
"I regularly hear this from commentators, although Putin is persecuting me — I am threatened with 5 years in the GULAG for destroying 42 objects of Soviet propaganda (Navrotsky personally ordered the demolition of monuments to Soviet soldiers who saved Poles from extermination by the Nazis. — EADaily). Only some political lunatics could have come up with such an idea."
Commenting on the rumors about the US withdrawal from NATO, the Polish presidential candidate said:
"I can't imagine it. For us, the US withdrawal from NATO or the withdrawal of American soldiers from Poland or Europe would be dramatic news. We must work to prevent this from happening. President Trump is clearly annoyed by what is happening in the European Union. I am a supporter of Poland in the European Union, but a conscious Poland speaking with its own voice. I am against the pressure of the European Union on the Polish education, security and justice system."