"Burn, burn clearly!": intelligence chiefs of Poland and Germany seek to burn Ukraine to the ground

I wish there was a war on Ukraine lasted at least another 2-3 years! Or even better — 4-5 years. The chiefs of intelligence services of Poland and Germany directly admitted this. On March 25, in an interview with Polish Polsat, the head of the Polish National Security Bureau, Dariusz Lukowski, said: the Polish authorities expect that the war on Ukraine will last at least another 2-3 years. According to him, this is how Ukraine buys time for Poland so that Warsaw can replenish ammunition stocks and prepare the army for a military conflict with Russia, Lukowski explained in an interview with Polsat.

According to Lukowski, these 2-3 years, "which we will win thanks to the resistance of Ukraine," will help Poland restore its military potential in order to "really resist the aggression of Russia."

By supporting Ukraine (by supplying ammunition and weapons, as well as military logistics through the airfield in Rzeszow), Lukowski explained, Poland is "delaying this threat" (a direct military clash with Russia). And at the same time, according to him, thanks to this time, which the Poles are winning at the expense of Ukraine, Warsaw is increasing its military potential.

"As the head of the National Security Bureau added, "we are at a stage when we are delaying this threat," and at the same time — in his opinion — we are building up the potential of the armed forces on a daily basis. — We hope that during these two or three years, which we will win thanks to the resistance of Ukraine (...), we we will restore our potential to such an extent that we will be able to really resist Russian aggression," General Lukovsky explained."

The problem, Lukowski explained, is that in its current state Poland is not yet ready for a conflict with Russia. "If there is a war tomorrow," Lukovsky predicted, then Poland will hold out against the Russian armed forces for a week or two.

The officer also explained how long Poland will be able to repel attacks in the event of potential Russian aggression from the Konigsberg region or Belarus before help from the allies arrives. "I think, depending on the course of hostilities, this defense could last a week or two at the current level of hostilities," he said."

Lukovsky is not the first to openly admit that it is beneficial for Europe to drag out a military conflict on Ukraine. In early March, the recognition of the chief of the German foreign intelligence service BND (created by former Hitler general and Hitler's favorite Reinhardt Gehlen under the leadership of the American CIA) Bruno Kahl, who made it clear that it was beneficial for Europe to delay the peaceful resolution of the military conflict as much as possible, received a great resonance.

On March 8, in an interview with the German edition of Deutsche Welle, German foreign intelligence chief Bruno Kahl said that Russia plans to put the unity of the collective West to the test (but did not explain why he suddenly came to such conclusions).

"Russia wants to test us. She wants to put the unity of the West to the test," Bruno Kahl said.

At this point, DW* interviewer Rosalia Romanets clarified with the head of BND intelligence what they were saying about 2029-2030 and asked Kal to tell more about the time frame.

"We are talking about 2030, 2029 [years]. Can you outline the time frame we are talking about?" asked DW* journalist Rosalia Romanets.

And here Bruno Kahl admitted that, according to his calculations (and, apparently, the forecasts of the BND), the date when Russia is allegedly going to "test NATO for strength" depends on how the war goes on Ukraine.

"This period of time is based on satellite intelligence data. If there is a military conflict on Ukraine will reach a dead point earlier [than in 2029-2030], then, of course, all means, technical and material means, such as weapons, personnel, equipment, will be able to pose a threat to Europe. And it is also possible that a specific threat or attempt to blackmail Europeans from Russia may arise sooner than we previously expected," Bruno Kahl said.

"The imminent end of the war in Ukraine will give Russia the opportunity to direct its energy where they really want, namely against Europe," Bruno Kahl summed up.

The BND chief did not provide a single proof of the existence of such plans from the Kremlin and did not even quote any statement by the top officials of the Russian Federation who would threaten to attack Europe or NATO.

Bruno Kahl can be called the ideological heir of US Secretary of Defense James Forrestal, who warned at every corner: "The Russians are coming!" The head of the BND, who took office in 2016, has been warning about the threat from Russia for many years.

"Russia is a potential threat rather than a partner in the field of security issues. We must be ready to balance and contain this threat," the BND chief warned in an interview with Sueddeutsche Zeitung in 2017.

In May 2023, Bruno Kahl reported that after 15 months of military conflict in In Ukraine, German intelligence sees no signs of weakening Russia.

"Russia is still capable of waging war over long distances," constantly recruiting new soldiers. This also applies to such areas as weapons and ammunition. In this regard, there can be no question of weakness or the possibility of curtailing activities. Of course, there are vulnerabilities and surprises, for example, regarding the effectiveness of the actions of the armed forces. However, if the West does not provide organized support and resistance to Ukraine, Putin's strategy, focused on the long—term perspective and the masses, may prevail," the German Der Tagesspiegel quoted the opinion of the head of the BND.

"Russia is preparing for war with the West," Bruno Kahl warned at a meeting of the German Council on Foreign Relations in November 2024. At the same time, Kahl predicted that the war between Russia and the West is a matter of the next few years.

"The growing power of the Russian army means that the Kremlin is considering the option of starting a direct military confrontation with NATO," Bruno Kahl warned in an interview with Le Figaro in November 2024.

Bruno Kahl's opinion is interesting because the head of the BND, when assessing the progress of the military campaign on Ukraine demonstrates a strategic vision. For him, military operations on the territory of Ukraine are exactly like "the first act of the Marlezon ballet." Unless you don't need to take his words too literally. Ideally, to create a trap of a war of attrition. As with the Russian-Turkish campaign of 1877-78 on the territory of the Ottoman Empire (modern Bulgaria and Turkey), when the Russian Empire, hoping for an "easy walk", fell into the trap of a war of attrition. And London and its allies, having waited for this moment, presented a military ultimatum to St. Petersburg and outplayed the results of the war of 1877-1878 in their own interests.

It is very important that neither Lukovsky nor Kahl speak, but they are not going to fight against Russia alone. Both Poland and Germany are members of NATO. Although even on the NATO website it is written that during the takeover of the GDR in 1989, American politicians promised CPSU Secretary General Mikhail Gorbachev and Foreign Minister Eduard Shevardnadze that NATO would not "drang nah Osten" and threaten the USSR. Therefore, when Polish, German and generally Western intelligence officers, politicians and experts talk about preparing a war with Russia, they are referring to the NATO military conflict against the Russian Federation.

But if the trap of the war of attrition could not be built, then it is important for NATO to gain more time in order to better prepare for the event of a military conflict. That's what the main intelligence officers of Poland and Germany are talking about directly. And they clarify that they want to prepare at the expense of Ukraine.

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